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Like most people, I felt this way initially, and secondarily. But I then read the logic that while a a shutdown is in effect (after two weeks anyway) the courts shut down. It can be argued that given the scared-into-submission GOP members of congress (scared for their families' safety from right-wing thugs, apparently) the courts are our only remaining guardrails, and indications are they have been moderately resolute in rising to the occasion (so far). In a shutdown, OMB - Russell Vought - decides who is 'essential' and can return to work. So, fine, the military, homeland security, DOJ/FBI, hmm, ... maybe no one else IS essential. The captive congress can string the closure along for months, during which time trump has above-average authority to reprogram funds within very broad categories and no courts to stop him. This is the nightmare scenario I think the few 'yes' Dems had in mind. To me it would help explain why relatively so many of them don't expect to seek reelection in 2026. They could have voted their truest feelings with no political repercussions. Surely they all knew this would infuriate the base, and maybe they weren't sure they wanted to give the other side any ideas. Just curious what your take is on this... Schumer does allude to this in his recent interview with Chris Hayes. See https://judicialstudies.duke.edu/2024/05/how-a-u-s-government-shutdown-impacts-courts-access-to-justice/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJJqshleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTH227k5kic4r7dgGDcBqKHm1S6BSVQcnlQzg9EkAnSt0COxM4Q4QEFKPA_aem_1sGe7-chlb_S2im92utCtg .

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I think there's good reason not to take Chenoweth/Stephan's numbers too seriously. It seems possible (likely?) that protest sizes are reflect the overall amount of resistance, rather than being a direct cause of the success of the protest. If that is the case, increasing ease of organizing (e.g., via social media) may lead to protest sizes that overestimate the amount of resistance in the population. There are valuable caveats in Tufecki 2017 (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/opinion/does-a-protests-size-matter.html) and Chenoweth's 2020 follow-up (https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/2024-05/Erica%20Chenoweth_2020-005.pdf).

Of course, this doesn't alter the central importance of leadership and action, and it's still compatible with any steps taken to increase participation and involvement.

Thanks for all your efforts, Prof. Wang!

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